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Smaller Delay Module


#1

The rainmaker is a really awesome delay, but I’m wondering if Intellijel has considered doing a smaller/simpler delay unit like a bucket brigade delay? Thoughts?


#2

YES please!!!


#3

Get it to 6hp and I’m in. Take over for Audio Damage (their delay is good plus small, but now out of production).


#4

A 4 hp delay module wouldn’t be able to have very many jacks. Audio Damage didn’t have attenuators, but our designs generally include them on all CV inputs.


#5

4hp maybe, but 6hp gives you a fair amount of room. Just gotta be clever. Look at some of the designs folks are coming up with now for micro-Mutable modules. It’s taken a generation or two, but they’re starting to make a fair amount of sense within a very small space.


#6

Here’s a crack a a 6hp version:


#7

Nice work! Although personally I would prefer Send and Return instead of a Feedback out and Mix CV in.


#8

That’s getting there. And as for the inevitable question “Why do you need stuff to be smaller,” I reply: Because I’m looking forward to Intellijel expanding the Metropolis to 16 steps, and will need the hp for that…


#9

Thanks :slight_smile: Here’s a version with send and return:


#10

based on how big the Pittsburg BBD is, I wonder if there are some space constraints related to the BBD chips themselves


#11

I’d be interested to know that as well. I own a Pittsburgh BBD and it is large, but they also use those large black and silver knobs, and I can’t help but think that takes up a lot of the hp available.

That being said, if Intellijel were to do a smaller delay module, it wouldn’t have to be a BBD persay, it could just be a smaller less feature laden delay module than the rainmaker. I would like a smaller delay module to go with my springray reverb.


#12

For the folks who are analog delay purists, I suppose only a BBD will do (unless you love tape delays and can get your hands on a Space Echo). Also, if you want to mess with self-oscillation, digital just doesn’t cut it IMHO.

The circuit board of the Ibanez mini analog delay pedal probably is similar in size to that of an 8-10hp module.


#13

I’ve heard some good emulations (Strymon), but I would prefer an analog BBD or space echo myself as well, especially for the self-oscillation stuff.

Looking at the ibanez mini analog delay, I bet you could get it smaller if it didn’t have that big honking knob on it and it was initially designed for euro rack sizes :slight_smile:

I get the sense that BBDs are wide because they were traditionally guitar effects pedals that you step on, and from what I’m reading parasitic capacitance can be a problem in BBDs so it makes sense to space things out, but I would think there’s probably a way you can design a circuit that is both small and sounds good.