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Shapeshifter's preset changes w/cv?


#1

Hi there,
I’d like to know if we can change ShapeShifter’s presets using CV.

Thanks a lot.

Best,


#2

Yes you can. This feature was introduced in firmware version 2.02 and there’s a quick video demonstration of it here: https://youtu.be/MDvmSyxLVWw?t=2m39s

You can also change chords, wave shapes, and randomize settings via CV and this is all demonstrated in the video.


#3

Hi Scott!
Thanks a lot.
I just updated the modules and didn’t get the new features. Sorry.

Yes I understood.
Fucking omnipotent and massive features.
It double integrated my new setup.
I’ll change preset… Through shuttle control and Live. Crazy.


#4

No apology necessary!

Enjoy the new goodies…


#6

hi @ScottMFR,
I tested it works fine but I’d like to know if I could basically use CV for selecting a preset without using STEPs.
I mean: 0V would be the preset 1, 0.1V the preset2 etc.

Stepping is nice for me if I want to randomize or just using a trigger, but I’d need to select this or that preset on the fly using automation.


#7

The best way to do that would still need a trigger, but if you select MODB in the Preset Step Menu you can use the MOD B knob or the MOD B CV input to use CV to select presets within the Beg-End range.

The faster the pulses are sent to the Sync/Trig input, the smoother the cv automation resolution will be. Or if you just sent sync pulses every few bars it would update at that point.

Does that make sense?


#8

I will test this in few minutes in my studio, but just for being more precise, I don’t want to change preset using any step. I need to change the preset at some point with a voltage. I don’t need sync input for that right ?

I mean, I have my stuff, plugged, and I send n VOLTS and it goes to the preset I want. no more


#9

You still need to send something to the Sync/Trig input for it to load the preset.

Think of it this way: Mod B CV input selects the preset, Sync/Trig input loads the preset. It doesn’t have to be a gate signal tied to your tempo, you could just use a square wave lfo. For example with something like Planar, you could use the X CV out to select preset using modB, then press use the gate button to load that preset.

What were you planning to use to select the presets?


#10

i use midi cc or whatever and convert that into voltage, pulse whatever with shuttle control.
so basically, cc from 0 to 127 converted to smoothed value from 0 to 5v (or bipolar, shuttle control can do that) could be nice for changing my preset.
i do that on my BRAIDS using META mode.


#11

Yeah Shuttle should be able to take care of both the Selection CV and Trig to load.


#12

Hey ScottMFR, testing this in few minutes in the studio.
It would mean changing CC + send a note for a trigger. Not necessarily “natural” but why not. I’ll try.


#13

so… it works but the sync is my problem.
should I use the same trigger as each note (= env to vca) triggered ?
the option of a LFO permanently sending trig for loading sporadic mod b change is also changing my sound (by retriggering something, sync I don’t know)


#14

The timing of the Trig would depend on how often you want the new presets to update. If you want to change the preset every time you play a note then you would send the same gate as your note on. If you wanted it to update on the beat then you would use a clock divided output. If you want it to have really high resolution then use a fast lfo or clock.


#15

I want to do that only “one time”

I mean:

I recall a preset.
I play with it (notes, CC> voltage)
then I recall a preset etc.

There are workarounds, actually, but for changing a preset in my case in Live with shuttle control, I need:

  • to automate a CC value (corresponding to the preset I want to recall)
  • to play a note that commit the preset (a note I don’t want to listen too)
    etc

That’s okay I understood well how it works now :slight_smile:

My hybrid setup is coming.
ShapeShifter is one of the rare modules to use presets and recall
and that µfold circuit GOSH !! I <3 it !

that’s a totally unofficial test of it + machinedrum + braids module all controlled with Live through shuttle control with some flavors of erbeverb + phonogene as broken echo as AUX.


#16

OK cool.

Yeah if you’re using an ableton controller you could map a button to load presets. As long as it sent a momentary high voltage if would do the trick.

Yeah the wavefolder can get some crazy tones.

Nice track btw! Very cool rhythms and textures…


#17

Actually, no controller.
preset changes are automated using CC.
CC -> shuttle control -> Voltage to MOD B

I hope to post about that setup when I’ll be okay with it.
Currently looking for other sound sources modules able to store/recall presets, actually.


#18

In Intellijel’s line-up there’s Plonk, Rainmaker, and Metropolis.

However with Tetrapad voltage mode you can kind of create presets by sending specific values to 8 destinations.