Sequencing with a Palette

Go ahead! You can have it:)

If it’s a case dedicated to controlling another case of modules, I’d replace the headphone jack with the FSR.

You could put a Triplatt in the 6HP hole, since Marbles doesn’t have attenuverters for its inputs.

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Brought one home with me this weekend :slight_smile:

Maybe I’m not looking in the right places. But the uMIDI 1U seems out of stock. Does anyone know when it’s available again?

And I’m not too sure where to go in the Palette after Tetrapad and Tete. It’s gonna take some time to get the funds for them and all the other 1U I’m missing so suggestions are welcome. Want to make evolving things that could go to my other gear. The usual stuff. Some Elektrons and soon a Pulsar 23.

Good topic! For sequencing in the Palette, I currently have a Pam’s and Steppy 1u, which handles a good bit of the triggering & gate sequencing. Along with some Euclidean and other basic pitch CV out of Pam’s, though it’s a fairly menu-divey way to do pitch sequencing.

Having a quantizer in the case will help with getting pitch cv into semitone scales. An mk4 for sure for basic stuff, Scales would be even better, and o_c would be a good option for some.

I have uMidi 1u and often use external gear for pitch cv. An SQ-1, BSP or similar (Digitakt/Digitone for sure) would make nice external companion for sequencing.

To keep everything in the case, I was discussing on Modular Grid forums, and Mimetic Digitalis looks like a good, fairly compact option for pitch sequencing in a more performance-oriented way. And I am personally very interested in the Cartesian sequencing capabilities. Again, paired with an mk4 or better yet an o_c for quantization I could see a nice patchflow coming together for pitch sequences.

Interesting. o_c certainly looks powerful. And with a Scales. How does Steppy work with non rhythmic stuff?

Yes, many scales and flavors of quantization are possible with o_c.

It would be interesting to use Steppy to create arrhythmic stuff! One way I can think of would be to randomize the clock input signal—say with a square wave coming out of an LFO, who’s own clock is being modulated by another LFO, and so on. Then the speed of Steppy’s trigger patterns can be warped.

That warp factor could be attenuated or quantized to keep it under control, or get wild. It gets interesting if more than one of Steppy’s outputs are triggering things, and those warped patterns can interweave, much like traditional polyrhythms, but with tempo warping.

Have fun!

You can also make Steppy’s gates more arrhythmic or unpredictable by using lower Probability, Random Ratcheting, setting the Gate Length to follow the pulse width of the clock input, or setting odd pattern lengths.

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A lot to think about here. Big thanks! From one thing to another, do anyone know if the small tank from Springray fits in a Palette case?

It fits, but you would only be able to mount VERY shallow modules on top of it. A Tetrapad can fit on top, but where the ribbon cable connects is very tight!

I am real interested in this. Currently I have an Ocatrack which sometimes I use to send steps and pitch to my Palette. I have not learned everything I can do with the Octatrack, but I quickly learned that it could at least be a nice starting point to send triggers from.

I have been messing with my case (who doesn’t? lol) and my favorite modules are Pams getting clock from the ocatrack (via UMIDi1u). I use Pams sometimes to send an envelope or LFO or trigger. My main Oscialltor is the BIA, which can handle a lot of modulation.

for modulation I am using Clep Diaz (usually clocked from pams, sometimes I just send it clock from the Umidi trigger out, which is pretty cool). The clep diaz quite often controls my Low pass filter. I also have a sinc bucina for a low pass envelope. I am still learning that one, but it’s pretty cool as a mod source, and I also send it clock from Pams.

Anyway, I have another Osc (plaits) and more mod opportunities and I love NE modules so I ordered a Mimetic Digitalis to modulate CV on both oscillators. I dont have it yet, but what I am interested in is this - if I use my octatrack to trigger my Oscillators, but the MD to modulate the CV, I feel like it may be too random and tough to control without a quantizer. For basslines and melodies, I feel like modulating a simple bassline sequence with a few notes can be amazing but I currently use Marbles and its too random.

Long winded post to ask this - Would Scales pair up well with the MD and Octatrack, or is that overkill?

I believe MD has the option to toggle quantization on and off on the output.

Otherwise, Scales pairs really well with anything that can send CV. Although I always recommend pairing scales with an attenuverter like Duatt or Triatt.

Awesome, I just bought Scales because it seems so powerful. Being able to harmonize two OSC modules is crazy! I feel like shredding the CV on the MD and then sending that through Scales could be an awesome way to generate some ideas that are not completely random and pitchy.

I have a Duatt 1u. I am still learning so I mainly use it for volume or controlling the depth of an LFO like the Clep Diaz. How would I use it with Scales? I also have a dual VCA 1u as well.

If you’re sending a signal with a wide range to Scales (like the output of Clep Diaz), you’ll probably want to attenuate it first to constrain the range of the notes to something more musical. Then you can use the second channel of Duatt in bipolar mode to offset the melody up or down. So in this example you would go in A and come out B.

Thanks, I never would have thought to do that. That is a great idea. I was just going to start by sending CV from the Mimetic Digitalis into Scales, but using the Clep Diaz is rather awesome concept to try as well.

I walk through how to use an attenuverter (in this case the right 2 channels of Quadratt) with Scales in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAvOfkqwH-I

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That video makes total sense. I just subbed to your channel. So much good info. Thank you. Really glad I got Scales now. So many things I am seeing that I can do with it.

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And now Scales is high on my want list. My Tetrapad and Tete arrives next week. I’m gonna mess that some time to see where it can go. But Scales been jumping in and out of my modulargridrack. I’m kinda leaning towards that and Marbes or a QUbit Chance. Kinda gave up Steppy. Seems too drum focused and in 1U to big.

It’s really fun to plan the 1U row. But wish there where more options. Especially around 10-12 HP. The uMIDI 1U is really hard to catch it seems. Are there any new version of it coming or do you know when it’s in shops again?

If it helps, I am selling Marbles and going to Scales (which Scott suggested to me in another thread, but I mistakenly dismissed until I dove more into it). As much as I love Marbles I have very little control of it. I think it is best for generative/ambient music. I bought it thinking that I could control it and I could not, at least for my style of music. If you are into generative, you may love the module though.

That didn’t help, hehe. Well I kind of like that Marbles is unpredictable in some ways. But understand your point. It seems to be very popular. I see it in almost everyone’s rack. But it’s also very common in the second hand market. I want something that makes the music evolve and change. But maybe Tetrapad/Tete is enough. I guess I will see after some time. This thread has made me look closer at Noiise Engineering. Really interesting stuff.